Racer808 Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Searched around, didn't find a thread & don't see it in the owners manual. My shaft seal blew its wad, with a whopping 3 hours put on it since I've had it....but the trim plate stopped working, I assume when everything got drenched it may have blown a fuse, hopefully that's it. I couldn't find the fuse box location, can one of you fine upstanding members of this site point me to its location? While we're at it, if it isn't a fuse, where else should I be looking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Donfather Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 If i remember right there is a 5 amp fuse for the Cav plate under the observer seat along the wall by the walk thru. Looking inside towards the front of the boat on the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer808 Posted May 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 If i remember right there is a 5 amp fuse for the Cav plate under the observer seat along the wall by the walk thru. Looking inside towards the front of the boat on the right. Would water in the bilge cause the cav plate to blow a fuse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Donfather Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Shouldn't. On my 13 the fuse was the wrong size. It was a 2 amp. I was told it needed a 5 amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsmobiledriver Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 My boat had the wrong breaker for the nav lights and it kept popping so it's very likely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer808 Posted May 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Alright. If its not the fuse where else should I be looking? I can't think of any other reason for the plate to stop working at the same time the shaft seal went out other than water doing something to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsmobiledriver Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Bad luck and the actuator quit maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondatech117 Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Bad luck and the actuator quit maybe That would be plenty easy to test, check for battery voltage at the actuator when commanded on Shawndoggy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer808 Posted May 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 That would be plenty easy to test, check for battery voltage at the actuator when commanded on Is there easy access to the circuit somewhere? The wire from the acuator looks sealed at the acutator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondatech117 Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 I would have to look at my boat to see where the junction is. I would assume it is a 2 wire set up. You can always follow the wire into the boat and slit open the sheathing and take a look in the wires in there and either use a probe or carefully cut the insulation parallel to the wire itself to expose the copper. When you put it back together you can use liquid electrical tape to seal it back up, and then electrical tape it on top of that. You can also test it at the switch and split the circuit. That will only tell you if have voltage up to the switch though. I don't have a wiring diagram so I am not sure if its a load to ground or switch to ground. You will always have voltage to your first open in the circuit on the b+ side. I know this post is way longer than it should be. So I would strip the insulation of the actuator wiring on the boat side and see if its a two wire and test for power and ground there. If you have power it is the actuator, 99%, I won't get into the 1% now. If you don't, test for power coming out of the switch. You can also swap switches and eliminate that as a cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondatech117 Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Just looked on Lenco site and it is a 2 wire, looks like they come with a 6ft wire whip, so if they didnt hardwire it all the way through there would be a connector within 6' of the actuator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer808 Posted May 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 As of now the fuse box in the observers cab does not have lenco, it has all the ballast tanks & surf assist identified but that's it. I looked under the dash, from the trim switch it goes to a Lenco box mounted up high on the foot panel where the heater outlet is. I gotta run to work. Need to get the seal adjusted so I can use the boat tomorrow, first nice weekend in weeks & it's down! This sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondatech117 Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 ^^^ having stuff that doesn't work sucks, especially when its the fun stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer808 Posted May 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Well. There's no power and I'm lost. No fuse at the panel in the observers cab. Can't find an in line. Aws denver stepped up big time and dropped everything to fix the seal and trouble shoot this. Can't praise the denver office enough. Shawndoggy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondatech117 Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Glad its getting taken care of and you got bumped to the front of the line! Hopefully they will have you back in the water for the weekend...let us know what they find Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer808 Posted May 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 I actually found it. They couldn't find power at the switch, I remebered the only thing different we did was not turn on the stereo accessorie so we turned that on viola. Feeling stupid. They're fixing the seal now.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondatech117 Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 I actually found it. They couldn't find power at the switch, I remebered the only thing different we did was not turn on the stereo accessorie so we turned that on viola. Feeling stupid. They're fixing the seal now.... LOL, DOH! At least now that is 'fixed' Racer808 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawndoggy Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 I actually found it. They couldn't find power at the switch, I remebered the only thing different we did was not turn on the stereo accessorie so we turned that on viola. Feeling stupid. They're fixing the seal now.... So the cav plate is wired as a slave to the stereo accessory switch? That should probably be changed. Racer808 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer808 Posted May 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 So the cav plate is wired as a slave to the stereo accessory switch? That should probably be changed. To what? A constant hot from somewhere else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondatech117 Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 To what? A constant hot from somewhere else? You can wire it to a switched circuit that is hot with key on. Shawndoggy and Racer808 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawndoggy Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 You can wire it to a switched circuit that is hot with key on. hmmm.... I'm not familiar with how that lenco brain box works. But something would need to have power with key off wouldn't it? Because key off is when the tab auto retracts? I dunno whether that would have anything to do with the switch itself tho (i.e should switch still work/does switch need to be energized for lenco brain to initiate auto retract)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondatech117 Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 hmmm.... I'm not familiar with how that lenco brain box works. But something would need to have power with key off wouldn't it? Because key off is when the tab auto retracts? I dunno whether that would have anything to do with the switch itself tho (i.e should switch still work/does switch need to be energized for lenco brain to initiate auto retract)? Good call, I forgot about the auto retract. I am assuming there is a relay inside that box, that would allow it to know when to auto retract with the power off . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer808 Posted May 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 Shawn, why do you suggest getting the hot off that switch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer808 Posted May 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 Oh & shaft didn't leak once! I love this boat when it's working. Action Water Sports Colorado really hooked it up, that was awesome that they did this for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawndoggy Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 Shawn, why do you suggest getting the hot off that switch? Maybe I'm misunderstanding? I thought that you are saying that the trim tab doesn't work unless the stereo switch is on? I mean I guess that that's fine if you know that, but it seems like that's not how someone would expect things to work. If it were me I think I'd just wire it to be constantly hot when the battery switch is on. That seems like a more logical setup. Racer808 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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