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#1 H20king

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 05:50 AM

Hey guys it's time for us to pick our next boat. We are looking hard at the MB now that our dealer has picked them up. Couple questions. First what is the drive ratio? Second is the plug and play. After reading through your forum it sounds like the bags drain into the hard tanks. If this is true it sounds like I might be better off skipping the plug and play and just have wake makers install it using reversible pumps. Thoughts?

#2 Hondatech117

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 06:21 AM

1.76 for all engines unless you do a 575, then it's a 1.5. Seems to be the concensus on here to do the aftermarket bags and forego the PNP. You have more control over the ballast when not having PNP.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 06:50 AM

Demo the product

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 07:28 AM

I'm happy with the pnp bags


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Posted 12 September 2017 - 08:25 AM

Not happy with the centurion line?

 

PNP bags are fine IMO - I would love to see a 4 pump option though. I'm impatient. 


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#6 MWCasper

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 08:34 AM

Factory PNP bags will be fine once Bowkill1 makes me a set of his handy dandy backflow preventers... ;)  

 

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#7 H20king

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 09:05 AM

Yes we have been super happy with centurion/supreme but do to changes in the supreme 238 it's not on the list. We have narrowed it down to a centurion fi23 or the mb. If the MB surfs as well as my dealer says and saves me enough money over the centurion it could be our next boat. We are still waiting to demo both before we decided for sure.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 09:18 AM

I have not got behind Fi23 yet, but have been behind the 2017 Ri237 and Ri217. The 2018 MB B52 23' surf wake is better out of the box. On your MB demo, make sure the surf tabs are in the highest pin location (at rest, the tabs should be as close to the swim platform as possible) for the maximum size wake. You can adjust down to your liking from there. Fill everything up evenly (hard ballast, bags, bow) and hit it! You will need minimal center tab.


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Posted 12 September 2017 - 04:39 PM

I have a 2016 F21 and love the PNP bags, not an issue for us.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 04:52 PM

I have a 16 F22 and am happy with the factory PNP. I like how fast it drains when we are done. I suppose that a separated system would give more control but I don't know what I would do with it in a way that would impact the wake or wave.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 05:53 PM

^^^ I guess my comment before was more in regards to people with the 23. I thought I remember reading that having the bags allowed you to have the weight more rear biased. Meaning you don't have to fill the hard tanks completely, all the way to the windshield, before filling the bags up. Being able to fill the bags before filling the hard tanks allows you to have more weight toward the rear.

That info was on '17 and prior models. Bosshog is right, you'll have to demo to see. The '18 is a different hull.

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 10:08 PM

Yes we have been super happy with centurion/supreme but do to changes in the supreme 238 it's not on the list. We have narrowed it down to a centurion fi23 or the mb. If the MB surfs as well as my dealer says and saves me enough money over the centurion it could be our next boat. We are still waiting to demo both before we decided for sure.

What changes?



#13 H20king

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 04:42 AM

Prop shaft angle. Supreme changed the angle in 17. The change messed with the wake. On our 16 we could list or use quick surf but with the change in shaft angle listing is no longer an option to get a clean wake. Now it's quick surf only and the wake is not as good as what we have.

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 05:55 AM

As stated above 1.76 unless you do the 575 then 1.5. I have the 575 and love it.  I am running full ballast for surfing at 12 mph  it is running 3000 rpm. I might even reprop and drop it more. It has so much torque.

 

I have the PNP. Since you run full ballast for surfing no issues with it. If you were only running partial bags it would be a problem. Once on plane the tanks would fill into bags. On the 23 run everything full and no issues.

 

Love the new 23


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Posted 20 October 2017 - 08:43 AM

As stated above 1.76 unless you do the 575 then 1.5. I have the 575 and love it.  I am running full ballast for surfing at 12 mph  it is running 3000 rpm. I might even reprop and drop it more. It has so much torque.

 

I have the PNP. Since you run full ballast for surfing no issues with it. If you were only running partial bags it would be a problem. Once on plane the tanks would fill into bags. On the 23 run everything full and no issues.

 

Love the new 23

what I heard as well...just fill it all the way and go.


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Posted 03 November 2017 - 04:18 PM

H2O, Did you ever demo the B52? I am taking my Supreme to NWBS in a couple weeks to be winterized. I too am looking at the MB’s, but I will keep my Supreme another season. For 2019 I have MB on my list. I am kind of thinking the same as you, do I go Centurion (though I do not want to pay that much), or go with the B52? I would probably spend the extra on the 440 or 460... I liked the F22, but the more I look at the B52 it is the perfect next boat. I will certainly demo one next season...

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 06:38 PM

just saying.... 

https://portland.cra...6370228432.html

 

this one is ready to go, demo anytime, surfs like a dream, totally willing to make a deal for a local MB Forum member


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Posted 04 November 2017 - 06:08 AM

And he’ll ship it for free! 😉


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#19 H20king

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Posted 04 November 2017 - 01:12 PM

Nice boat but to many hours for us. Here is ours if anyone is interested in a supreme. https://portland.cra...6351947041.html

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Posted 04 November 2017 - 03:12 PM

Too many hours what in the world? 300? These things run 1500 without blinking.

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