jcole21 Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 Evening all! im looking at ordering a ‘22. First up is 24 vs 23. I might not have a choice, wifey wants the bigger seats in the back, but assuming I do, here’s the things I’m considering all black with gold on most of the powder coat, and will black out the rub rail as well. Mocha and brown with black accents interior, diamond gator step 1) about a 40k delta between the two. I like the bigger motor and increased size / storage on the 24. any comment on the motor (sound / decibels / pickup of the 400 23 vs 575 24), and storage between the two? 2) I generally hear the surf wave of the 23 is superior - is that something newer surfers would notice, or more advanced levels that matters? We’re newer to surfing, but getting into it and excited for a surf system. Need to maintain a rookie friendly wake. 3) surf racks - I like the aesthetics and function of the skylok racks, but am debating there. I could stick with the basics almost, we don’t generally have more than 2 boards and could go into the Bimini to store a couple. 4) how’d you guys size up audio? I’m leaning 4 towers, 8.8’s, but saving the sub money and getting another sub installed and having the system tuned up post delivery. Does the 12 considerably juice the bump? 5) any must haves or trailer considerations / general things you wish you did or didn’t do? 6) debating a little gold paint finish vs all black probably go all black on the body, except maybe the swim platform attached the skittles joint my kid did and the one I’m looking at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie Posted September 7, 2021 Report Share Posted September 7, 2021 22 hours ago, jcole21 said: Evening all! im looking at ordering a ‘22. First up is 24 vs 23. I might not have a choice, wifey wants the bigger seats in the back, but assuming I do, here’s the things I’m considering all black with gold on most of the powder coat, and will black out the rub rail as well. Mocha and brown with black accents interior, diamond gator step 1) about a 40k delta between the two. I like the bigger motor and increased size / storage on the 24. any comment on the motor (sound / decibels / pickup of the 400 23 vs 575 24), and storage between the two? 2) I generally hear the surf wave of the 23 is superior - is that something newer surfers would notice, or more advanced levels that matters? We’re newer to surfing, but getting into it and excited for a surf system. Need to maintain a rookie friendly wake. 3) surf racks - I like the aesthetics and function of the skylok racks, but am debating there. I could stick with the basics almost, we don’t generally have more than 2 boards and could go into the Bimini to store a couple. 4) how’d you guys size up audio? I’m leaning 4 towers, 8.8’s, but saving the sub money and getting another sub installed and having the system tuned up post delivery. Does the 12 considerably juice the bump? 5) any must haves or trailer considerations / general things you wish you did or didn’t do? 6) debating a little gold paint finish vs all black probably go all black on the body, except maybe the swim platform attached the skittles joint my kid did and the one I’m looking at. First up - the 23 has a world class surf wave, and the 24 will surf very well. You have to decide how you will use your boat - cruising with occasional surf, or all in watersports. The 24 with the big prop and grunt will cruise at lower RPM making it quieter, it'll be faster and obviously have more room. The 23 is a surf machine. Period. You should definitely consider it if you plan on doing it a lot. With surfing, (I'm simplifying greatly) the larger the wave, the more push it has, therefore easier for beginners, and more fun for advanced riders. Racks, skylock are awesome, especially if you are not hanging over people trying to strap boards. Money well spent in my opinion. Stereo- we have the 4 towers with standard subwoofer. System is extremely loud. Except for the base ... I don't know how much better is the upgrade but for $1800 you can install a helluva second unit. I would go that route. Trailer - the base trailer is all you need. Most options will be simple bling. Colors - both all black and black with gold look awesome in my opinion. Anyway, here's my 20 cents :-). Let us know what you end up with jcole21 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppydriver Posted September 7, 2021 Report Share Posted September 7, 2021 Wait for the 25’ It will essentially be a stretched b52 The 24’ seems to end up pre owned back in the showroom after a few months for a reason. I’m an MB “fanboy”, but the 24’ has just been disappointing for many (although for a cruiser with ramp presence its awesome). They are both pretty boats, but they are essentially “surf boats”, and one doesn’t surf well (although it has an amazing wakeboard wave) and one has one of the best waves in the industry at any price point. If surf wave was not important to you, I’d probably be looking at some premium stern drive models like Chap or Cobalt. jcole21 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppydriver Posted September 7, 2021 Report Share Posted September 7, 2021 Also…. I’m a bit “economically challenged” and I really debated the Skylocks since they were not a “need”. Get them. You don’t want a 120-150k boat with bungees, powder coat them and people with 300K Paragons will be jealous. They allow even the smallest of kids to easily access ands secure boards, which would be relegated to dad duty otherwise. Plus, they have vest holders, flag holders, and a locking mechanism to secure your boards short term if you need to leave your boat slipped for a bit. jcole21 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcole21 Posted September 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 Good looking out, gents. Appreciate the perspective. Anybody know when the 25’ is coming? That would be my preferred option, and I’m not looking to take delivery until q2 anyways (dealer said they’re running 3-4 months out from order to delivery). skylocks 💯 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProvoMB52 Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 I'm thinking rather than hearing from the natty crowd who "seems" to know everything about the 24's (see a couple of the pontifications above), you'd like to hear from an actual F24 Alpha owner. PM me, and I can give you the full skinny. But in short, we actual owners have spent the time to dial in the surf wave on the F24, and while it's not quite as easy to produce the same wave as is the 23', once you get it figured out it produces a mountain of water for a wave. You surf a little faster than the other models, but there's plenty of push, and if you're looking for a lip to play on the top of the crest, it will shock you how tall the wave can be. Don't want it that tall, simply drain back to in floor ballast only, and off you go! The 575 is as absolute beast which will put you on plane nearly as soon as you hammer down. The storage is big enough to nearly store a full B52 in the rear lockers. I'm still shocked at how big that boat really is. As for the rest of your thoughts, pick what works for you, and you won't go wrong. jcole21 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppydriver Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 44 minutes ago, ProvoMB52 said: I'm thinking rather than hearing from the natty crowd who "seems" to know everything about the 24's (see a couple of the pontifications above), you'd like to hear from an actual F24 Alpha owner. PM me, and I can give you the full skinny. But in short, we actual owners have spent the time to dial in the surf wave on the F24, and while it's not quite as easy to produce the same wave as is the 23', once you get it figured out it produces a mountain of water for a wave. You surf a little faster than the other models, but there's plenty of push, and if you're looking for a lip to play on the top of the crest, it will shock you how tall the wave can be. Don't want it that tall, simply drain back to in floor ballast only, and off you go! The 575 is as absolute beast which will put you on plane nearly as soon as you hammer down. The storage is big enough to nearly store a full B52 in the rear lockers. I'm still shocked at how big that boat really is. As for the rest of your thoughts, pick what works for you, and you won't go wrong. Great post. I’m sorry for being one of the natty crowd. I fully admit that everything I hear about the 24’ is here say. The only thing is what I have heard comes from people who know MB in general very well. Great to know that with a little work, you can dial in a great wave. One thing I will say is that it has a commanding presence similar to what a 250k competitor boat has. Pklakevet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcole21 Posted September 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 Hold up - is the natty crowd the crowd that drinks natural light? If so, 23, 24, 25, or pavati- I’m still gonna be in the natty crowd at core 😉. Thanks Provo and crew, again. Aesthetically, I’m partial to the traditional bow (doesn’t take away from how gorgeous the 24 is - just what my eyes slightly more attracted to generally). Going to see one in person - I’ve seen a few on the lake and they’re absolutely stunning / gorgeous. Add a wall of water, the storage (local sales guy said the 24 is like 3x the 23 storage space in his assessment), plus a 25’ slip… and here I come Provo… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProvoMB52 Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 Seeing an F24 Alpha in person, and absolutely taking it out for a test ride, will be the best option for your research. You can read about it, and hear about it, but until you actually see the size, the storage, and experience the wakeboard wake, and the surf wave, you won't appreciate what that boat is about. jcole21 and Guppydriver 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_MB Posted September 20, 2021 Report Share Posted September 20, 2021 I'll vote for the F24 because I hear it throws a huge wakeboard wake. I'll teach you and your boys to ride and next thing you know you'll be raising little Shaun Murray's! 😁 bloodiestcadaver and jcole21 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcole21 Posted September 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 I like all that Ryan 😉. Checking some rigs out Friday. Thanks for the consult Provo. If I go, leaning all metallic black low, then metallic gold on the upper / rear / transom. Excited to walk a 24 and get a feel for the dimensions. AZ_MB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_MB Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 Nice! Water testing Friday or just looking at them in person? I sat in the F24 at the boat show. The size is nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcole21 Posted September 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 Just seeing in person for the first time. Hoping they have a 23 too, and for shits and giggles I’m gonna walk the g23/g25. here’s the current lean - I like the gold on the transom… Guppydriver and bloodiestcadaver 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_MB Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 Reminds me a bit of the gold boat The Boat Shack did. Gonna be an attention getter for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_MB Posted September 27, 2021 Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 So how did it go? Did you put in an order for the the skittles design? I think you should! 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcole21 Posted October 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 24 is gorgeous and big. Also gotta see a 23 alpha with quite a bit of gold on it. Damn sexy. seeing if the numbers can work out, and if they do I’m hoping to order pretty quick. AZ_MB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcole21 Posted October 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 Order up over here. Overthinking the interior welt / piping / accent colors, but running four months and going in. All black exterior with gold metallic and mocha / black interior. Pretty pumped! Larks21 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_MB Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 Sweet! Which model did you decide to go with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcole21 Posted October 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 Final decision. Gonna tint / coat / black out the rub rail day 1. Went 24 but the 23 alpha so sexy too and hard decision (they have a nice Oreo on the floor). AZ_MB and Skeeran21 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_MB Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 That's going to be a very nice upgrade! Congrats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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