M1AHD 325 Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 Can't wait to see the finished product. This is a great project!! You and me both.. It is so close to being on my to-do list.. Just want to see how it looks, that will push me over the edge I'm sure.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MidnightMax 3,063 Posted May 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 It's going to look soooo good.. I can't wait! Templates are in, CAD work is under way (well sort of, being told 3 to 4 weeks for drawings) and then 2 more weeks to produce pieces.. Killin me, I'm waiting on flooring, I'm waiting on my Soulcraft, weather is getting nice!! Killin me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Invert3 3 Posted June 10, 2014 Report Share Posted June 10, 2014 I replaced all the black rubber pads on my 2010 B52 with Faux SeaDek. I was tired of burning my feet. I replaced the swim pad, pad around gas cap, two pads on top by reseat, and i added 3 step pads on the front of the boat. SeaDek looks awsome and stays cool for the feet. It was very easy to install as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iowatwb 25 Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 @Invert, Was it hard to get the original MB rubber off the swim deck? I have been thinking about putting SeaDeck on my 2010 TWB but I was worried the original would be too hard to remove. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MidnightMax 3,063 Posted July 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Ok so I finally am finished with this project! Whew!!! SO let me start off by saying (and many of you have mentioned this) That this is definitely a winter project. Very time consuming and a long lead time procuring the material. I started this project in mid April and have just now finished.. Timeline: - Mid April start - Removed all the carpet (1 day) - Partially created the template from the SeaDek kit (1 day) (partially because SeaDek did not send me enough material for the whole boat) - Waited another week for the extra template kit to arrive. - Mailed off the templates On May 2nd - CAD Drawings where emailed for approval on May 30th (4 weeks) - Had a few alterations that needed to be made in the jointing pattern and spent a week or so emailing back and forth with SeaDek to explain my issues. - Drawings had to go back to CAD for modification, Finally got them back for approval June 25th (3.5 weeks) - Floor manufacturing complete July 3rd (1 week) - Shipped from Florida to Portland (1 week) Total time from Templates to delivery = 10 weeks! Based on the information on their website I had expected this time period to be about 5.5 to 6 weeks so this put me a month behind schedule Customer Service with Seadek was challenging and I got pretty frustrated at times. At one point I emailed back and forth a few times with one of the Sales VP's about my frustration. His comments were that he was sorry for my issues but that SeaDek has experienced tremendous growth this year and was in the process of moving to a larger facility and were hiring and training more people. So hopefully in the future, their lead time will be cut down some. In the end though, I am very happy with the product they have supplied and that has somewhat made me forget about the poor customer service. On the bright side, all this waiting has given me ample time to prep the floor for the new flooring - and that takes a lot of time! Once I got the carpet stripped away, the hard work began removing all or the old carpet adhesive. Im not sure if the carpet that comes in our boats is cheap or if the adhesive is just really good because while removing the old carpet individual strands or pieces would remain stuck to the floor pulling through the mesh. To remove the old adhesive I tried a couple things : Mineral spirits, MEK, and Acetone. both the MEK and Acetone did a fair job but the evaporation rate on them is too quick requiring a lot of re-application. I found that if I covered the areas with rags and then wet them with mineral spirits letting them soak for a bit, the adhesive came off pretty easy with a scraper in the flatter smooth areas. The raw fiberglass beneath the carpet however is not very smooth and not very flat so it took quite a bit of scraping and scrubbing with a brillo pad in those areas to get it all off. After getting all of the adhesive off I next had to "level" a couple areas. The areas over the ballast tanks was nice and level but the transition from the Starboard tank to the observers compartment was very uneven. I also found that the area under the helm was quite uneven as well. I used bondo to fill in and level both these areas as best I could. The SeaDek does "show" uneven areas a lot more than the carpet did primarily because of the routed in "lines" creating the faux teak effect so my advice to anyone doing this is to take the time and make sure some of the rougher areas are level and smooth. Next I prepped the floor with a couple coats of urethane bed liner (I used Monsterliner) to seal the fiberglass surface and create a nice smooth bonding surface for the SeaDek. You can get this stuff in many different colors, I choose black. Finally the flooring showed up in the mail and it was time to finish the job. For those of you that have not seen this stuff it is basically a big sticker. For each piece you take a sharp razor bblade and gently slice through the paper backing near the middle of the piece and turn up the corners. Then you dry fit it and position it where you want it. You then tape one side down with masking tape to keep it from moving. Once you have it in place you start applying the non taped side starting at the middle where you sliced the paper backing pulling it off as you press the flooring down working from the center to the edges. after you get one side down you peel off the massking tape and do the same with the other half. CAUTION - GO SLOW, take your time because once you stick it down it is STUCK!! there is no pulling it back up and re-positioning. I found that in a couple places after I had installed it, a few air bubble formed. Not sure if this was because of heat or sunlight or some reaction with the glue. I used a small exacto Knife to make small slits in the bubble and forced the air out.. worked great. And that is really all there is to it.. This project is more on the expensive side. Seadek charges by how many sheets of material it takes to cut all the pieces. I opted to do the lockers as well with the Faux Teak as I wanted everything to match but I think a lot of money could be saved by doing the "hidden" areas such as the lockers in their standard material and the interior floor in the fancier stuff. All in with the chemicals to remove the adhesive, the monsterliner, and the Seadek for the entire boat including the swim platform was around $3k. Getting rid of that crappy, wet moldy carpet... Priceless charvey629, 13 Tomcat, WakeDirt and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greeko 685 Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 That is mucho awesome bud! Looks fantastico! Gonna have to come out to Chelan for the weekend to test her out and give the final sign of approval LOL MidnightMax and The Donfather 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MidnightMax 3,063 Posted July 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Thanks Brother! And absolutely you should come down.. will be there July 19th to August 2nd! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greeko 685 Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Thanks Brother! And absolutely you should come down.. will be there July 19th to August 2nd! You just finished the reno in the Nick of time lol MidnightMax 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shawndoggy 1,452 Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Wow, that looks awesome! MidnightMax 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WakeDirt 634 Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 ModGod MidnightMax and ecklunda 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SkySki 251 Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 That looks like a ton of work, but I would say it really turned out great. I am sure you increased the value of your boat. The real question, would you do it again looking back? I am going to guess yes as the final product looks reall good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MidnightMax 3,063 Posted July 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 Absolutely I would do it again... I love the way it looks and feels on the feet!! In fact, I think If I ever bought a new boat I would insist on having the factory install it or if they wont having the factory leave the carpet out and do it myself. It really makes the boat look classy I think! KingMatyas 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wakecumberland 35 Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 Fan-freakin-tastic! That looks incredible! May have to man up and do that to my '15 23 TWB over the winter MidnightMax 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rickB52 24 Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 That does look great. Feels like I am looking at pics of a new $100K+ Nautique :-) Did you mention you will be covering under bow with standard sea deck? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MidnightMax 3,063 Posted July 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 That does look great. Feels like I am looking at pics of a new $100K+ Nautique :-)Did you mention you will be covering under bow with standard sea deck?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Ha! If I had the money for a Natique I think I would by 2 MB's, a 23-WB and an F-22 For now, I have just left the humps in the bow bare with only the Monsterliner covering them. The front ballast bags cover the area anyway so it never really gets seen but maybe next year I may buy a sheet of their standard 3 mm material in black and cover them. The Faux Teak is a little to stiff to form over those humps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kalamazoo 631 Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 looks great Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pickle 104 Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 Job well done! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MidnightMax 3,063 Posted July 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 Here are a few more pics boogs, alexhunter, 13 Tomcat and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oldsmobiledriver 2,713 Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 Looks sick!!! MidnightMax 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alexhunter 13 Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Wow, that looks great. I'll be doing this to my 2012 twb. MidnightMax and philgere 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smokinjo 180 Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 I would so do that if I had the time. Wish you were my neighbor, then I could trade beer for help. Lol MidnightMax 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MidnightMax 3,063 Posted July 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 I would so do that if I had the time. Wish you were my neighbor, then I could trade beer for help. Lol It would be a LOT of beer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skeeran21 30 Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 Template kit arrived today!! Mucker, Did you end up completing this project?? Interested in how it turned out since I also have the magnet carpet. Was wondering if the SeaDeck stuck well to the floor that isn't a smooth finish. Also how the battery cover turned out. I am from Portland area as well. Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MidnightMax 3,063 Posted July 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 ^^^ I don't think you would have any issues getting it to stick. The PSA they use is heavy duty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skeeran21 30 Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 ^^^ I don't think you would have any issues getting it to stick. The PSA they use is heavy duty Ok thanks good to know. Did you do your swim deck also? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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