guitarcrazy Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 I currently have a 2012 B52 23V and love the boat. Our first boat was a Centurion Elite V, and the B52 was a massive upgrade. I love the look, wakeboard wake is great, and it surfs really well. I added 1100s to the rear lockers, and a 400# bag in the nose. I get a steep wave that is easy to surf, but it isn't as long as some boats I have seen. Goofy wave is really nice. I now have 430 trouble free hours on the boat, but am starting to get new boat fever. I really liked the value proposition of the 2012, which made it easy to spend the money to upgrade. Looking at the 2017s, the cost of MBs have risen quite a bit. It now looks like the Supreme S238 is probably the best value boat available. Reviews say the surf wave is impressive, but wakeboard wake may not be as good as my B52. I am not as fond of the Supreme styling, and really like the look of the 2017 MB tower and gel schemes. Has anyone on the forum demo'd both the new B52 and the S238? Any thoughts on switching? I really love my MB, but I don't think I am willing to step up to $90K for a new boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robeport Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 90k seems really high for a '17 B52. You can find them all over the place for well under 80k right now. Jake (((O))) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake (((O))) Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 75k obo for a 20 hour 17 22' Tomcat on here. I would think an '18 could be had under $90k. I'd also see if I could check out a Moomba Max, brand new model and massive. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsmobiledriver Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 That Moomba Max looks like a dog house lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk FIJIGuy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeTJ Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 Perhaps they have improved, but when I cross shopped the Supreme 226 against the MB F22 last year, my open noon was that the fit/finish if the Supreme was pretty far off the mark of the MB. Great styling but the materials and construction seemed lacking. scottdpfister and Birddog7.62 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robeport Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 Perhaps they have improved, but when I cross shopped the Supreme 226 against the MB F22 last year, my open noon was that the fit/finish if the Supreme was pretty far off the mark of the MB. Great styling but the materials and construction seemed lacking. Completely agree. scottdpfister and Birddog7.62 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarcrazy Posted August 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 I definitely prefer the looks of the MB to the Supreme. I don't know if I like it $15K more, but I like it. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robeport Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 I definitely prefer the looks of the MB to the Supreme. I don't know if I like it $15K more, but I like it. J As mentioned above, you are getting some bogus pricing on the MB.... Birddog7.62 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer808 Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 You guys ride a Supreme? I almost got one but I didn't like the interior. Heard they surf amazing but only listed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundEncounters Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 You guys ride a Supreme? I almost got one but I didn't like the interior. Heard they surf amazing but only listed? I surfed a 17 S238 and S226. They really produce an awesome listed wave I have seen, but for switch wave the MB was hands down 5x better right out the box. The guys as FineLine were nice enough to throw another 800lbs on the rear seat of the 238 for me but it still wasn't anything compared to the wave out the box I got from the F24 and that made up my mind immediately. Demo both and see for yourself. I prefer the vinyl quality of the Supreme over the MB, maybe not the "finish" look but the quality of the vinyl itself seemed much better. I just didn't care for the "squared off" look Supreme gives on all their ascetics. Racer808 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbalsiger Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 am starting to get new boat fever. I don't think I am willing to step up to $90K for a new boat. your OP seems to contradict itself..... the only reason listed in your OP as to why you are shopping for a new boat is "new boat fever" then get ready to pay for it....MB is still your best bang for your buck, even at $90K Hondatech117 and oldsmobiledriver 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarcrazy Posted August 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 your OP seems to contradict itself..... the only reason listed in your OP as to why you are shopping for a new boat is "new boat fever" then get ready to pay for it....MB is still your best bang for your buck, even at $90K So far I have found several S238s in the high $60's, low $70s. I haven't seen any new B-52 23Vs in that range. I haven't been in an S238, but for that price, and what is supposed to be a world class wave, it seems worth consideration. The main reason for the post was to hopefully find people that have been in both. It seems not many have surfed and wakeboarded both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birddog7.62 Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 So far I have found several S238s in the high $60's, low $70s. I haven't seen any new B-52 23Vs in that range. I haven't been in an S238, but for that price, and what is supposed to be a world class wave, it seems worth consideration. The main reason for the post was to hopefully find people that have been in both. It seems not many have surfed and wakeboarded both. I urge you to go read the supremecrew.com. I don't see anyone over there raving abut how good their wave is. Quite to opposite, post after post bitching about trying to get a decent wave and lots of QC issues. I'm also looking at the S238 and the MB. the MB has much better fit an finish than the S238. S238's don't like weight in the front at all, all the weight has to be in the back and they ride nose up big time. Doesn't sound very fun to me. I'm leaning back to MB. Shawndoggy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Donfather Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 You should go try the New 2018 B52 23. Surf wave is awesome out of the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarcrazy Posted August 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 I would love a 2017 or 2018 MB B52, just not sure the price delta would be worth the upgrade. I spent roughly $20K going from my Centurion Elite V to the MB. If I can keep the delta at $20 to $25K I would be interested. I doubt I can do that with the 2018 MB, and probably not even the 2017. It looks possible with the 2016, but I don't like the tower on the 2016s. I prefer the one on my 2012 to the ones from 2013 to 2016. Just don't dig the look of that tower. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsmobiledriver Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 When I was in Austin end of last year they had a 16 on the trailer for 72 ish. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeTJ Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 So far I have found several S238s in the high $60's, low $70s. I haven't seen any new B-52 23Vs in that range. I haven't been in an S238, but for that price, and what is supposed to be a world class wave, it seems worth consideration. The main reason for the post was to hopefully find people that have been in both. It seems not many have surfed and wakeboarded both. what do you mean you "haven't seen them"? As in, haven't seen them advertised somewhere (or listed on a dealership site) for that? That isn't surprising. However, I think you'd find that the actual sales price after negotiation would be considerably less than $90K, probably in the mid/high 70s. I don't think you'll likely get into the 60's, though, at least for a B52 23. I got my F22 in that range, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbalsiger Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 I would love a 2017 or 2018 MB B52, just not sure the price delta would be worth the upgrade. I spent roughly $20K going from my Centurion Elite V to the MB. If I can keep the delta at $20 to $25K I would be interested. I doubt I can do that with the 2018 MB, and probably not even the 2017. It looks possible with the 2016, but I don't like the tower on the 2016s. I prefer the one on my 2012 to the ones from 2013 to 2016. Just don't dig the look of that tower. J it's times like this I miss Pete...... Ship Faced, Mgigs7, Kalen427 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsmobiledriver Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 Hahahahahahahahahahaha^ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbski Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 it's times like this I miss Pete...... Where is some guy lol Pete where are you lol BrettLee3232 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondatech117 Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 Oh you guys kick him off and bully him and now you want him back? lol Kalen427 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbalsiger Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 Oh you guys kick him off and bully him and now you want him back? lol no....definitely not! it's just that I was laughing at how he might have responded here.... Hondatech117 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Donfather Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 I can send him a request to return JeffO, WakeDirt and oldsmobiledriver 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondatech117 Posted August 11, 2017 Report Share Posted August 11, 2017 no....definitely not! it's just that I was laughing at how he might have responded here.... Give us your best imitation...lol Mikewoods 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakeDirt Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 I think his response to the "Walrus lift" of a 18 swim deck would have been far better received than anything in this thread ha ha! I think he safe spaced too many PNW dudes and got booted oldsmobiledriver 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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