Birddog7.62 Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 I'm torn, been wanting the 24 Tomcat because of its extra foot and it looks slightly cooler, though the B52 is really growing on me. Would like opinions from the big tomcat guys, is the extra foot that noticeable? How do these surf in comparison to each other? Lets assume 2016-2017 hulls. I don't like the older B52 hull shape. New, it looks like there is a bout a 10K difference, the 24 being more expensive. I've seen the WB (wide body) designation sometimes on the 23, aren't the 23's all the same beam? Pickle Fork, drier or wetter ride? Does one have more free-board than the other? what are the actual lengths of both? My two biggest wants are surf wake and space. I know how this will go when I get the new boat, "Hmm it has about 5000lbs of ballast and it surfs pretty sweet, what happens if I have 7000 lbs?" Talk to me goose... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsmobiledriver Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 I would think the 23 would be a drier ride from spray but this is based of my older 2012 F21. It sprays up from the hull and then hits the start of the flat under of the forks and sprays the windshield. I don’t mind it because even the bow in my 21 is slightly wider especially at the very front than the 23. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakota4ce Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 My 24 never splashed over the front. The only time we would get wet would be backseat passengers in a crosswind what’s with the wind blowing of the spray from the bow around and back in the boat. Since it’s windy here all the time, that got to be annoying. But as far as spray from the front on the passengers never had that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Birddog7.62 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birddog7.62 Posted November 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Dakota, what boat do you have now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam4x4 Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 The 24' tomcat is do for a over make over MidnightMax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWCasper Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 New 24 Tomcat coming in ‘19? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakota4ce Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Dakota, what boat do you have now? Supra SE450 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birddog7.62 Posted November 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 OK my MB peeps, negotiations have begun with the local dealer. Both the 17' B52 23 and the 17 F24 tomcat are still on the table. Please hit me up with thoughts on both boats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxvet Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 I would go with a 2018 model year no matter which one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakota4ce Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 2018 23 all day. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsmobiledriver Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 F24 if staying 17’, 18’ B52 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProvoMB52 Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 I agree with Oldsdriver. We have a '17 24', and we've worked really hard to finally dial in the surf wave. I think by the end of the season we were almost where we want to be. It was certainly a great surf wave, but we want it just that little bit more perfect. We know what we need to do, and that will be our effort first day out in 2018. That said, the wave coming out of the '18 23' straight out of the box is mind blowing! You'll pay a premium to have the new hull, but unless you absolutely have to have the bigger play pen front end, I'd stick with the 23'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakota4ce Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 I agree with Oldsdriver. We have a '17 24', and we've worked really hard to finally dial in the surf wave. I think by the end of the season we were almost where we want to be. It was certainly a great surf wave, but we want it just that little bit more perfect. We know what we need to do, and that will be our effort first day out in 2018. That said, the wave coming out of the '18 23' straight out of the box is mind blowing! You'll pay a premium to have the new hull, but unless you absolutely have to have the bigger play pen front end, I'd stick with the 23'. I think I remember you posting that you were struggling. What’s been the issue? My F24 wasn’t too far off the basics to dial. Really pretty trouble free. What’s the setup? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birddog7.62 Posted December 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 in my experience more weight is always the solution. . 80K ish is the top of my budget, the 2018 23 would be great but its going to be 90K at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakota4ce Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Make SURE that F24 has the 440 at a minimum. She’s a big girl. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk oldsmobiledriver 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birddog7.62 Posted December 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Make SURE that F24 has the 440 at a minimum. She’s a big girl. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk why, all I need to do is 11mph. oldsmobiledriver 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakota4ce Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Uhhhhh. Okay? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birddog7.62 Posted December 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 partial sarcasm there Sheldon . Your point is valid, its a big boat and fully loaded with people and ballast I'm sure that mill is working hard. thanks for pointing this out. Anyone out there get a 2018 B52 23 for less than 85? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondatech117 Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 partial sarcasm there Sheldon . Your point is valid, its a big boat and fully loaded with people and ballast I'm sure that mill is working hard. thanks for pointing this out. Anyone out there get a 2018 B52 23 for less than 85? In no time you will be getting the 2018, you already bumped your budget 5k in 12 hours. meetloaf13, MidnightMax, Birddog7.62 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsmobiledriver Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Hahahahahaha, point! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosshog Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Who is your dealer Birddog Jake (((O))) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birddog7.62 Posted December 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 toss up between Seattle water sports and NWBS. just talked with them and they say I can get a 2018 B52 for mid eighties Jake (((O))) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondatech117 Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 toss up between Seattle water sports and NWBS. just talked with them and they say I can get a 2018 B52 for mid eighties There ya go, time to start a new thread on opinions on color and options on your '18 Jake (((O))), Birddog7.62 and oldsmobiledriver 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightMax Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Go with NWBS. you should get a better deal. SWS is usually higher priced and not as knowledgeable IMO. Jake (((O))) and Birddog7.62 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birddog7.62 Posted December 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 sws is a lot higher!! they have their new 18 B52 listed at $100K. The 24 tomcat sure feels larger. MidnightMax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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