theedgeinc Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 I know there has been discussion around this all new boat from Mike and the boys, but I don't believe there's been enough. This boat deserves way more hype. So call me the hype-master, but here's my take on it now that We've got one. First off, WOW seeing the exterior of this boat in person is very cool. The pictures somehow just can't do it justice. Maybe it's the angles we've seen, maybe it's because they've all been on those yard dollies in the build pictures. The overall stance of it is cool. I think it's lines are better off shown in the water, all of the angles just make sense. Next you'll notice the interior is a rapid departure from the 21's and 23's. If you've seen the 24, you more or less get the idea. All of the upholstery is cushier with more foam, Almost every seatback is sculpted to find a perfect place for your back, seats are firm, and supportive, buy yet very plush feeling. This boat has a world class interior, easily able to duke it out with others in it's category. I'm tall (6'4") So naturally I felt it in the 21. I wasn't uncomfortable, but i just felt big. The 22' for me is 100% perfect at the helm, or in any other seat, including the bow, which gains 7" in length from front to back, 44"-21 51"-22. Also keep in mind the seatback cushioning is nearly twice as thick. Knee clearance in the dash area is up big time from 17" to 20" Interior Depth Measurements- bow floor to top of seat leanback cushion- 21 tomcat 27", 22 tomcat-31" Ob. seat- floor to top- 21 Tomcat 29", 22 Tomcat 33" Rear Seats- floor to top- 21 tomcat 27", 22 Tomcat 34" So in a nutshell, this boat is 3" deeper on the inside. Somehow it FEELS like so much more. More to come... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theedgeinc Posted October 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 still on the inside... The boat is indeed longer, it's mostly bow where this appears. The length of the rear seating is up a marginal 1" Again, feels bigger. Interior width, also 1" wider Everyone who has seen the boat kept saying "it looks so much wider" and i agree, so I was kind of taken aback to see this measurement- again, this is a vinyl to vinyl, measurement, cushions are thicker in the 22, so maybe that's it. the two piece rear trunk is magical, one quick open to get to the enormous trunks, or the heating tray. You see the MB quality here too, as the full length stainless hinges are thru-bolted into the fiberglass (other brands screw, or use smaller, alloy hinges) Even the gas assist supports are thru-bolted, and stainless. The engine/pylon structure is also stainless, not powdercoated alloy. Unfortunately, due to new gas tank/fill regulations, MB had to move the filler to the side of the boat. Boo. MB also made the switch to pump in tank fuel delivery, so you'll feel a porthole under the magnetic carpet near the back. I didn't get a picture of it, but the water drain in the floor is larger, and very cool looking. Here's pics of the seats removed, showing a BUILT IN COOLER Still a bit more to come... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1AHD Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Thanks for the detailed pictures and measurements! Can't wait to get in one myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theedgeinc Posted October 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 My mind wanders, so i'm going back to the exterior. Check out all these very cool lines... The level of detail, still for me, it what separates MB from the others. Wake... Let me start out, sorry, no pictures yet. We rode it last night under sub-prime conditions. It was windy, and the lake is 10' deep max. SO not a good representation. We rode 1800# Full Ballast, 3 People, FUll Tank Of Gas, 22MPH. The wake felt pretty much the same as it's big brother 23' WB. Tall, powerful, not too peaky, but still boots you perfectly. I'd love to throw another 400 in the walkway, as i suspect, it'll be perfect like the others. This boat also behaves a bit better as far as the side to side wash. Surfing, again, sorry for about lack of pictures, and setup (we were fighting daylight) With the same crew and 400# in the trunk, plate all the way up, 10.8mph, this boat excelled. Nothing really huge, but it was long, strong, and playful. Much more like the 23, than the 21's. I barely had to work to keep my 220# butt in the sweet spot and have a good time. We're hopefully going to have some time to be able to take this out in better conditions, on a better lake to really get things dialed. SO to wrap things up: I don't think there is another 22' boat on the market that can offer all of these features, for nearly the money, at anywhere near the quality. MB hit the nail on the head, and I predict this to be their run-away best seller. Keep in mind this is coming from a dealership that less than 10% of MB sales were pickle forks. That's about to change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theedgeinc Posted October 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 all of these pictures and a few more can be seen at www.facebook.com/theedgeinc1 or www.theedgeinc.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawndoggy Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Does it still not clean up till 21+? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theedgeinc Posted October 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 i didn't check, however at 21. it was perfectly clean, un-weighted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greeko Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 mmmm..boner boat.... theedgeinc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greeko Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Ill be working out at the Veteran Hospital in Battle Creek this winter for a couple months. I am going to pay you guys a visit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theedgeinc Posted October 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 that's funny! I have a good friend who works there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greeko Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Small world.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Smeltzer Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 I crawled around one at Texas Mastercraft and really liked it. My only concern was bring able to fit a bag where the built in cooler is at. Also fitting a view sac unset the cushion msy be s pain since the filler hookup fir a tsunami pump is at the point of the boat and there is no access there the way the cushions are designed Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demo9asx Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 Not a big fan of the built in cooler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakeDirt Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 Hey Edge, where are the heater ports located? I could only spy 1 euro vent by the drivers feet?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakeDirt Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 Are these 14 seaters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theedgeinc Posted October 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 heater pull out is in the same location, which is in the wall, just behind the observers seat lift up. And knowing MB it'll be rated for 15. Frankly, i think it's a 12 person boat P.S. Batteries are in the floor, below the plexi windblock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFTR Josh Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 Not a fan of the built in cooler at all... Now I don't really surf but I do see that getting in the way of some surf junkies but a GREAT place to throw shoes. The knee room being a bit taller is awesome but does that raise the dash 3" taking your view looking out the windshield? I never use my booster seat when driving and really like the view out the glass and nothing in the way. I would like to see this boat with the 4 point tower... Although that tower is very strong and sturdy i like the fact that I have upper racks and nobody has to move since I can get boards on and off from the back deck and not killing my back. Overall this is a good looking boat with a few improvements that really had to happen. Can't wait to see and maybe ride one in person... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theedgeinc Posted October 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 Forward Visibility is still a strong point, not AS good, but way better that other brands by FAR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogs Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 The new glove box slightly blocks view on the 22 and why I disliked it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakeDirt Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 Not a fan of the built in cooler at all... Now I don't really surf but I do see that getting in the way of some surf junkies but a GREAT place to throw shoes. The knee room being a bit taller is awesome but does that raise the dash 3" taking your view looking out the windshield? I never use my booster seat when driving and really like the view out the glass and nothing in the way. I would like to see this boat with the 4 point tower... Although that tower is very strong and sturdy i like the fact that I have upper racks and nobody has to move since I can get boards on and off from the back deck and not killing my back. Overall this is a good looking boat with a few improvements that really had to happen. Can't wait to see and maybe ride one in person... That spot (edit) would be a great fit for shoes! I am a but shoe Nazi on my boat lol, I also was thinking maybe a good spot for wet ropes, or the anchors if its being used a lot during a weekend. I will never be a fan of the under seat coolers personally. We drink too often and too much to utilize these smaller under seat coolers...too small, and super annoying to get to! I just used my walkway cooler in my old MB for champagne and jager 5ths....I need at least 60 quarts, I like when they are removable, So I will always be running a cooler in the cabin. I like being able to pull it out and have an actual usable cooler with wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakeDirt Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 Shoes would be a great fit for shoes! I am a but shoe Nazi on my boat lol, I also was thinking maybe a good spot for wet ropes, or the anchors if its being used a lot during a weekend. I will never be a fan of the under seat coolers personally. We drink too often and too much to utilize these smaller under seat coolers...I need at least 60 quarts, I like when they are removable, So I will always be running a cooler in the cabin. I like being able to pull it out and have an actual usable cooler with wheels. We usually only roll with 6 people, and a 60 quart "not" being big enough makes me feel like an alcoholic! MidnightMax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakeDirt Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 http://www.larsonmarine.com/pre_owned_detail.asp?sid=09084436X10K8K2013J10I03I49JPMQ6685R0&veh=3438184&nv=y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalfabguy Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Mr dirte, I climbed in that boat at larson. A few things I noticed, the gunnel from the tower back is arched like much like a newer mastercraft but the tower and tower pivot point are the same pieces as used on the prevous models with flat gunnels the the tower is actually leaning more forward to be honest seeing it next to a 2013 makes it look odd. The glove box kills the flat dash space behind the windshield and looks like a bit of an afterthought, glove box underneath the hump is the same as previous years. The batteries are indeed under the carpet in the walkthrough but I think it is a step backwards seeing as they used to be there before they moved them to be under the observers seat. Larson is using sportboat trailers instead of the mb trailer and the new tung on the sb trailer is ridiculously long even as a swing away tung I think the old sb trailer for my 23 is shorter ie new one might not fit the garage well. WakeDirt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakeDirt Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 If I get one made, Im gunna get a white boatmate. I definitely wanna get over there and crawl around in this thing. Heck...I could even imagine it on a white boatmate . If it had a heater, heated driver seat, and theater lighting I might get cra cra.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakeDirt Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Did you notice the difference in interior height? Was the bow crazy big? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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