adam4x4 Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 So like most I have not been happy with my 2016 GSA. The wave is dirty and always just not right. So I have been wondering about what if i slapped it. How is the wave going to be? Why has no one tested anything on this boat so I do not have to! So here I go with testing! I started building a fake slapper. First designing it. Next came to cut some wood and build it! It was pretty easy to build, I just use some cardboard for design So it was test time! First had to make sure that we had some geese to slap! CHECK! So here is day one, 3 people on the boat and one in the water. First no wight The some wight just stock tanks full. Then about 500 in each tank! ( trim tab at 50%) The Wife And my self. Im 6'2" and 300 lbs right now. ( i need to get back on my diet) The wave was awesome! A huge sweet spot! The next day we had more kids and one more adult in the boat. not sure what was going on, but could not get it back as good. also did not try very hard, just a fun day with the kids. Ok so on day 3 i changed a lot. I plugged the hard tanks. And I took off the GSA on the regular side By capping the tanks off, this stopped the water transfer from the tanks into the bags. I do not know how many of you have noticed this. it made the boat ride flat when surfing instead of nose high. By taking the GSA off, it clean up the lip.(no trim tab) The wave was not as good, but I was only running hard tanks. I did not have any lead with me and think about 400-600 lbs and the wave would be money! it was still good, but as big. So all in all Yes the slappers will put out a better wave than the GSA. I have some more fine tuning to do, and find some bags to try more weight. also i'm going to build a regular side and test it also. Going to get some videos together for you all to see. Shawndoggy, MidnightMax, JeffO and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slavoise Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 I like the idea! My goofy wave is beyond good (with GSA)... Too bad I do not ride goofy. Did you work on the regular wave at all? If so, do you have any pictures of it?. B_RAD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam4x4 Posted September 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 I like the idea! My goofy wave is beyond good (with GSA)... Too bad I do not ride goofy. Did you work on the regular wave at all? If so, do you have any pictures of it?. I have not tried it yet. I'm going to build that side tonight! will not test it for 2 weeks maybe. I hope sooner JeffO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slavoise Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 I have not tried it yet. I'm going to build that side tonight! will not test it for 2 weeks maybe. I hope sooner Sweet... I'll keep checking this out then... I may have to go that route this Winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakota4ce Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Adam-- Was it steeper? My biggest complaint on my F24 GSA wave is the shape. My surfing has progressed to the point where I crave a steeper wave with a lip. GSA, even in steeper configuration, seems to make a kinda "skimmy" wave. Any comments on the slapper shape? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxvet Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Nice work! This is a 23' B52 -- right? Curious though why you blocked off the pnp bags? I'd put them back in and fill the surf side in increments. I'm betting it will be money. Its clean now without the tab too, as I've always said. Also, to get a good idea of how it would really work, you may want to trim down and taper that slapper tab so it would fold under the platform as that's how it would have to be stored. I've been playing around with this idea some as well. midnight has been great with the email responses Shawndoggy and MidnightMax 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxvet Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Adam-- Was it steeper? My biggest complaint on my F24 GSA wave is the shape. My surfing has progressed to the point where I crave a steeper wave with a lip. GSA, even in steeper configuration, seems to make a kinda "skimmy" wave. Any comments on the slapper shape? run those secondary tabs flat and use the outer furthermost top pin hole. Only use enough center tab to reduce the fountain. Run full ballast on the surf side and drain non-surf side bag to about 1/2- 3/4.. A little bow weight helps too. Its steep believe me. dakota4ce and Mgigs7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakota4ce Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 You drain your bag, or your hard tank? I have been draining my hard tank off 1/2. I also have been dialing the wakeshaper back a ways to flatten out the main tab, seems like I have maxxed out? I will keep trying different things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxvet Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 fill hard tanks and then stop filling the bag when about 1/2 full on non-surf side. My tabs in stowed position are about 1/4 from touching the bottom of the platform. Completely flat. dakota4ce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam4x4 Posted September 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Nice work! This is a 23' B52 -- right? Curious though why you blocked off the pnp bags? I'd put them back in and fill the surf side in increments. I'm betting it will be money. Its clean now without the tab too, as I've always said. Also, to get a good idea of how it would really work, you may want to trim down and taper that slapper tab so it would fold under the platform as that's how it would have to be stored. I've been playing around with this idea some as well. midnight has been great with the email responses Yes I have a 2016 B52 23' The reason that I caped off the bags is that water transfers from the tanks to the bags. It make things really hard to have a constant judgment with people and weight. Also found when caped off the boat had a lot less bow rise and was easier to drive with more bow weight. As for the size of the gates, I'm wanting to large as possible. I have been waiting to see what the new swim deck looks like and size. I may order a new swim deck or have one built. rbsileighty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam4x4 Posted September 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Adam-- Was it steeper? My biggest complaint on my F24 GSA wave is the shape. My surfing has progressed to the point where I crave a steeper wave with a lip. GSA, even in steeper configuration, seems to make a kinda "skimmy" wave. Any comments on the slapper shape? The wave was a lot steeper with heavy weight. My wife even said it scared her at first. The wave was very firm also. On the slapper shape i just fallowed what midnight suggested. 20 long 11" wide down to 10 at the tip. 25 degs off the side of the boat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakota4ce Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 On the slapper shape i just fallowed what midnight suggested. 20 long 11" wide down to 10 at the tip. 25 degs off the side of the boat I should have clarified--I was referring to wave shape. I think I have a copy of Midnight's slapper drawing on PDF already somewhere in my files. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakota4ce Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 As for the size of the gates, I'm wanting to large as possible. I have been waiting to see what the new swim deck looks like and size. I may order a new swim deck or have one built. Or see if you can procure an earlier swim deck--the rounded ones. They work great blending in with folded slappers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakota4ce Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 run those secondary tabs flat and use the outer furthermost top pin hole. Only use enough center tab to reduce the fountain. Run full ballast on the surf side and drain non-surf side bag to about 1/2- 3/4.. A little bow weight helps too. Its steep believe me. I confess I have run goofy a lot less than regular--I seem to socialize with way more regular surfers for some reason. Anyway, the times I have run goofy, I have really noticed the wake is quite steep. I haven't taken the time to really dial in the goofy wave as its rarely used, but it is steep right from the get go. Have you also had success making the regular side as steep? That is the one that ends up skimmier on my boat. Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam4x4 Posted September 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Here is my wife surfing with 509lbs and 3 in the boat. You can see how step the wave is. https://vimeo.com/user56377839 I hope this works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam4x4 Posted September 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Ok try again JeffO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam4x4 Posted September 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 So here I go, yes I'm 300 lbs at the end you can see how far back j was able to go. They cut off the video, but I did save it! JeffO and Gmwild50 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam4x4 Posted September 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Here is no plug and play just hard tanks capped off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slavoise Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 You spent all that money on A killer Wetsounds system... and you play slow country Mgigs7, goatgod06 and JeffO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam4x4 Posted September 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Hey my mom and dad where on the boat! And I have a 3 year old that repeats everything he heres. It's funny at times, but but other parents look at you funny when he sings SHAKING THAT A$$. jjolin01, JeffO, MidnightMax and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slavoise Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Lol!!! Love it. You win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightMax Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Nice work! This is a 23' B52 -- right? Curious though why you blocked off the pnp bags? I'd put them back in and fill the surf side in increments. I'm betting it will be money. Its clean now without the tab too, as I've always said. Also, to get a good idea of how it would really work, you may want to trim down and taper that slapper tab so it would fold under the platform as that's how it would have to be stored. I've been playing around with this idea some as well. midnight has been great with the email responses You are right that on boats with the newer style swim deck the tab needs to be stored underneath however I think a better option would be to shim the swim deck up as much as you can. I took some measurements on an F-22 recently and it looks like you can gain a good 1 to 1-1/2 inches more room under there by shimming it up. I think that you might be able to gain even more with the 2017 swim deck that appears to be quite a bit thinner as well. I think shimming up would also help the issue of the corner dragging in the water. I would mount some kind of HDPE or fiberglass block under the platform as well to act as a "stop" for the gate to rest against in the stowed position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunchbox Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 That wave looks great! Nice work.... I am working on a suction cup device today and will hopefully convince the wife that we should do slappers,,,, coming to see you mucker and midnight.... MidnightMax and B_RAD 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATRON Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 2017 swim step has different corners which would allow slappers without raising step Mucker626, Shawndoggy, adam4x4 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperryd Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Did PATRON just say Slapper??? Lol. That is awesome! PATRON you are the man!!! Shawndoggy, The Donfather, oldsmobiledriver and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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